Comments on: Talking at CEGSA AGM – Adelaide next week http://mseyfang.edublogs.org/2007/03/26/talking-at-cegsa-agm-adelaide-next-week/ a place where I 'think out loud' and share stuff online Tue, 01 Dec 2009 02:13:15 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.2 hourly 1 By: Teaching Generation Z » Blog Archive » Fang @ CEGSA http://mseyfang.edublogs.org/2007/03/26/talking-at-cegsa-agm-adelaide-next-week/comment-page-1/#comment-1196 Teaching Generation Z » Blog Archive » Fang @ CEGSA Tue, 03 Apr 2007 10:09:15 +0000 http://mseyfang.edublogs.org/2007/03/26/talking-at-cegsa-agm-adelaide-next-week/#comment-1196 [...] He showed a video mashup of an interview with Kevin Richardson with Nick Hodge where the point was made that the most interesting tools being used by kids are not accessible within the school environment. After a second blancmange video, he then outlined his vision of the “virtual fieldtrip or excursion”. He describes it best in his original post but he goes into further detail. The scenario described researching Wikipedia on Australian Governor Generals and getting students to spot errors in the content. [...] [...] He showed a video mashup of an interview with Kevin Richardson with Nick Hodge where the point was made that the most interesting tools being used by kids are not accessible within the school environment. After a second blancmange video, he then outlined his vision of the “virtual fieldtrip or excursion”. He describes it best in his original post but he goes into further detail. The scenario described researching Wikipedia on Australian Governor Generals and getting students to spot errors in the content. [...]

]]> By: Teaching Generation Z » Blog Archive » Excursions With The Fang http://mseyfang.edublogs.org/2007/03/26/talking-at-cegsa-agm-adelaide-next-week/comment-page-1/#comment-1146 Teaching Generation Z » Blog Archive » Excursions With The Fang Thu, 29 Mar 2007 13:09:15 +0000 http://mseyfang.edublogs.org/2007/03/26/talking-at-cegsa-agm-adelaide-next-week/#comment-1146 [...] Next week, the CEGSA AGM will have the pleasure of a presentation from Mike Seyfang (aka the Fang) which will hopefully provoke the assembled masses into some sort of reaction, be it excitement or fear (or maybe a heady mix of both). Mike is an independent consultant specialising in mashing Web2 technologies and because he doesn’t come from a classroom background and doesn’t fear sacred cows from that environment, is the ideal person to shake and challenge some conceptions and perceptions about the state of technology in education today. In collaborative fashion via his blog, his newly formed twitter account and the Net2Blazers email listserv, he’s circulating his embryonic idea for his little presentation and wants any input, regardless of whether you are a CEGSA member, or in this case a TGZ reader. [...] [...] Next week, the CEGSA AGM will have the pleasure of a presentation from Mike Seyfang (aka the Fang) which will hopefully provoke the assembled masses into some sort of reaction, be it excitement or fear (or maybe a heady mix of both). Mike is an independent consultant specialising in mashing Web2 technologies and because he doesn’t come from a classroom background and doesn’t fear sacred cows from that environment, is the ideal person to shake and challenge some conceptions and perceptions about the state of technology in education today. In collaborative fashion via his blog, his newly formed twitter account and the Net2Blazers email listserv, he’s circulating his embryonic idea for his little presentation and wants any input, regardless of whether you are a CEGSA member, or in this case a TGZ reader. [...]

]]> By: Gerry http://mseyfang.edublogs.org/2007/03/26/talking-at-cegsa-agm-adelaide-next-week/comment-page-1/#comment-1114 Gerry Mon, 26 Mar 2007 13:44:45 +0000 http://mseyfang.edublogs.org/2007/03/26/talking-at-cegsa-agm-adelaide-next-week/#comment-1114 Brilliant as usual. Two comments Mike. The first is that if you use scenarios then you should also draw out good examples of useful net behaviours (eg values, analysis, ...) throughout the event as well as at the end such as 'risky behaviour' and secondly, I think that kids are further ahead than this vis a vis this weekend's article about Kids and the Internet (Weekend Australian, 24-25th March, Magazine, p23). Kids today can handle loads of disparate facts but miss out on analysis and then finding the patterns and application. How about multiple use of media (as you have) and multiple sources of information then cross checking information before drawing out the generalisations of what has been learnt and what appears to be accurate. Then to application about how best can we use this knowledge? The final session needs to be stronger on drawing together some threads otherwise we fall into 'smorgasborg' learning of the type that is being criticised by Prof Susan Greenfield at Oxford. She says we skim across the top without learning anything. This is overcome by bringing the information together, analysing the patterns and then finding ways of using the newly acquired knowedge. Perhaps then in your speech some indicators of how this could be done eg blogs, wikis etc Brilliant as usual.

Two comments Mike. The first is that if you use scenarios then you should also draw out good examples of useful net behaviours (eg values, analysis, …) throughout the event as well as at the end such as ‘risky behaviour’ and secondly, I think that kids are further ahead than this vis a vis this weekend’s article about Kids and the Internet (Weekend Australian, 24-25th March, Magazine, p23). Kids today can handle loads of disparate facts but miss out on analysis and then finding the patterns and application.

How about multiple use of media (as you have) and multiple sources of information then cross checking information before drawing out the generalisations of what has been learnt and what appears to be accurate. Then to application about how best can we use this knowledge?

The final session needs to be stronger on drawing together some threads otherwise we fall into ’smorgasborg’ learning of the type that is being criticised by Prof Susan Greenfield at Oxford. She says we skim across the top without learning anything. This is overcome by bringing the information together, analysing the patterns and then finding ways of using the newly acquired knowedge.

Perhaps then in your speech some indicators of how this could be done eg blogs, wikis etc

]]> By: Jackie Cook http://mseyfang.edublogs.org/2007/03/26/talking-at-cegsa-agm-adelaide-next-week/comment-page-1/#comment-1110 Jackie Cook Mon, 26 Mar 2007 07:20:44 +0000 http://mseyfang.edublogs.org/2007/03/26/talking-at-cegsa-agm-adelaide-next-week/#comment-1110 Good stuff - but the focus on SEARCH bothers me... It's more about upload, isn't it?? Rather than a topic focus (you suggested local figures) why not a mode focus: eg best on-use of images... the art of bricolage should be taught ahead of text generation, so that we get to know something of the range and repertoire available in collaging images: not as a software function but as a mode of creation of meanings. Ditto sound. Etc. Information is just data Mike: you know that. Raw material. But 'project' is two words: a task as a noun, and a screening as a verb - let's shift to the second. Until we get media users thinking about the end possibilities for future users before the limitations of data, we don't get new. Good stuff – but the focus on SEARCH bothers me… It’s more about upload, isn’t it??
Rather than a topic focus (you suggested local figures) why not a mode focus: eg best on-use of images… the art of bricolage should be taught ahead of text generation, so that we get to know something of the range and repertoire available in collaging images: not as a software function but as a mode of creation of meanings. Ditto sound. Etc.
Information is just data Mike: you know that. Raw material. But ‘project’ is two words: a task as a noun, and a screening as a verb – let’s shift to the second.
Until we get media users thinking about the end possibilities for future users before the limitations of data, we don’t get new.

]]> By: nickhodge.com | mungenet » Learning Technology Challenge. It’s not the Technology. http://mseyfang.edublogs.org/2007/03/26/talking-at-cegsa-agm-adelaide-next-week/comment-page-1/#comment-1108 nickhodge.com | mungenet » Learning Technology Challenge. It’s not the Technology. Mon, 26 Mar 2007 04:35:51 +0000 http://mseyfang.edublogs.org/2007/03/26/talking-at-cegsa-agm-adelaide-next-week/#comment-1108 [...] As highlighted by one of Australia’s leading Social Networking thinkers in Education, Mike Seyfang, technology in schools is already in schools. Mobile phones, the MSN Messenger communities, blogs, Myspace, Wikipedia: these technologies are being used by students today. [...] [...] As highlighted by one of Australia’s leading Social Networking thinkers in Education, Mike Seyfang, technology in schools is already in schools. Mobile phones, the MSN Messenger communities, blogs, Myspace, Wikipedia: these technologies are being used by students today. [...]

]]> By: Graham Wegner http://mseyfang.edublogs.org/2007/03/26/talking-at-cegsa-agm-adelaide-next-week/comment-page-1/#comment-1107 Graham Wegner Mon, 26 Mar 2007 03:47:37 +0000 http://mseyfang.edublogs.org/2007/03/26/talking-at-cegsa-agm-adelaide-next-week/#comment-1107 Mike, this follows on brilliantly from some of the ideas uncovered at TALO Swapmeet - it's one thing to whine about the filter but the virtual excursion concept where students could access the "interesting" tools with the structure in place you'd have for any off school site excursion is worth pursuing. Yep, I'll live blog it as long as there's some sort of open wireless point to connect to. I haven't yet tried Twitter but you might struggle to find a volunteer, so I'll create an account before next week and see what I make of it. Mike, this follows on brilliantly from some of the ideas uncovered at TALO Swapmeet – it’s one thing to whine about the filter but the virtual excursion concept where students could access the “interesting” tools with the structure in place you’d have for any off school site excursion is worth pursuing. Yep, I’ll live blog it as long as there’s some sort of open wireless point to connect to. I haven’t yet tried Twitter but you might struggle to find a volunteer, so I’ll create an account before next week and see what I make of it.

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