Comments on: Compliment or Exploitation? – my Flickr cc:by photo used for commercial gain http://mseyfang.edublogs.org/2007/09/03/compliment-or-exploitation-my-flickr-ccby-photo-used-for-commercial-gain/ a place where I 'think out loud' and share stuff online Tue, 01 Dec 2009 02:13:15 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.2 hourly 1 By: Alpha Release » Blog Archive » Flickr-Fotos bei Schmap http://mseyfang.edublogs.org/2007/09/03/compliment-or-exploitation-my-flickr-ccby-photo-used-for-commercial-gain/comment-page-1/#comment-2146 Alpha Release » Blog Archive » Flickr-Fotos bei Schmap Tue, 01 Jul 2008 20:23:06 +0000 http://mseyfang.edublogs.org/2007/09/03/compliment-or-exploitation-my-flickr-ccby-photo-used-for-commercial-gain/#comment-2146 [...] vorher noch nie was von Schmap gehört habe, hab ich mal ein bisschen gegoogelt und u.a. da, da, hier und dort verschiedene Meinungen über Schmap gelesen. Die Diskussionen sind schon ein bisschen [...] [...] vorher noch nie was von Schmap gehört habe, hab ich mal ein bisschen gegoogelt und u.a. da, da, hier und dort verschiedene Meinungen über Schmap gelesen. Die Diskussionen sind schon ein bisschen [...]

]]> By: DPE Australia » Blog Archive » In Like Mike http://mseyfang.edublogs.org/2007/09/03/compliment-or-exploitation-my-flickr-ccby-photo-used-for-commercial-gain/comment-page-1/#comment-2019 DPE Australia » Blog Archive » In Like Mike Mon, 24 Sep 2007 04:26:20 +0000 http://mseyfang.edublogs.org/2007/09/03/compliment-or-exploitation-my-flickr-ccby-photo-used-for-commercial-gain/#comment-2019 [...] Uncle Mike talked about this last week: why you tag your photos (cc) and geotag your photos. [...] [...] Uncle Mike talked about this last week: why you tag your photos (cc) and geotag your photos. [...]

]]> By: In Like Mike | nickhodge.com http://mseyfang.edublogs.org/2007/09/03/compliment-or-exploitation-my-flickr-ccby-photo-used-for-commercial-gain/comment-page-1/#comment-2011 In Like Mike | nickhodge.com Mon, 10 Sep 2007 05:53:39 +0000 http://mseyfang.edublogs.org/2007/09/03/compliment-or-exploitation-my-flickr-ccby-photo-used-for-commercial-gain/#comment-2011 [...] Uncle Mike talked about this last week: why you tag your photos (cc) and geotag your photos. [...] [...] Uncle Mike talked about this last week: why you tag your photos (cc) and geotag your photos. [...]

]]> By: Jerry http://mseyfang.edublogs.org/2007/09/03/compliment-or-exploitation-my-flickr-ccby-photo-used-for-commercial-gain/comment-page-1/#comment-2010 Jerry Tue, 04 Sep 2007 01:27:20 +0000 http://mseyfang.edublogs.org/2007/09/03/compliment-or-exploitation-my-flickr-ccby-photo-used-for-commercial-gain/#comment-2010 Hi Mike, love your work - keep going! Hi Mike,
love your work – keep going!

]]> By: Dave the Lifekludger http://mseyfang.edublogs.org/2007/09/03/compliment-or-exploitation-my-flickr-ccby-photo-used-for-commercial-gain/comment-page-1/#comment-2009 Dave the Lifekludger Mon, 03 Sep 2007 21:56:46 +0000 http://mseyfang.edublogs.org/2007/09/03/compliment-or-exploitation-my-flickr-ccby-photo-used-for-commercial-gain/#comment-2009 No 'isolating' creative work in that scenario! http://lifekludger.net/2007/09/04/isolation-kills/ Dave No ‘isolating’ creative work in that scenario!

http://lifekludger.net/2007/09/04/isolation-kills/

Dave

]]> By: Stephen Downes http://mseyfang.edublogs.org/2007/09/03/compliment-or-exploitation-my-flickr-ccby-photo-used-for-commercial-gain/comment-page-1/#comment-2007 Stephen Downes Mon, 03 Sep 2007 13:44:14 +0000 http://mseyfang.edublogs.org/2007/09/03/compliment-or-exploitation-my-flickr-ccby-photo-used-for-commercial-gain/#comment-2007 I have had a large number of photos selected by Schmap and have granted them permission to use them in every case. I have never had any objection of the commercial use of my materials (my papers also appear in journals, and my guide to the logical fallacies has appeared in any number of publications). Yes, Schmap had to ask me for permission. This is why I provide contact information, and this is why I enable free and open access to my photos. They use what amounts to an almost completely automated system, showing that permission-granting need not be onerous. They preserve what is most important to my - my own ownership and continued use of my own photos. They do not steal them, the way publishers steal papers from authors by taking them and then prohibiting the authors to post them or to publish them elsewhere. My work remains my own, even when it is in a Schmap guide. Everybody wins! Schmap makes a few dollars collecting photos and information and producing city guides. I have purchased guides (mostly Frommers, from bookstores) to help me in my travels, so I know it's a useful service. I am happy to see them make money, and I'm happy my hotos are helping both them and their readers. I have had a large number of photos selected by Schmap and have granted them permission to use them in every case.

I have never had any objection of the commercial use of my materials (my papers also appear in journals, and my guide to the logical fallacies has appeared in any number of publications).

Yes, Schmap had to ask me for permission. This is why I provide contact information, and this is why I enable free and open access to my photos. They use what amounts to an almost completely automated system, showing that permission-granting need not be onerous.

They preserve what is most important to my – my own ownership and continued use of my own photos. They do not steal them, the way publishers steal papers from authors by taking them and then prohibiting the authors to post them or to publish them elsewhere. My work remains my own, even when it is in a Schmap guide. Everybody wins!

Schmap makes a few dollars collecting photos and information and producing city guides. I have purchased guides (mostly Frommers, from bookstores) to help me in my travels, so I know it’s a useful service. I am happy to see them make money, and I’m happy my hotos are helping both them and their readers.

]]> By: mseyfang http://mseyfang.edublogs.org/2007/09/03/compliment-or-exploitation-my-flickr-ccby-photo-used-for-commercial-gain/comment-page-1/#comment-2006 mseyfang Mon, 03 Sep 2007 12:22:24 +0000 http://mseyfang.edublogs.org/2007/09/03/compliment-or-exploitation-my-flickr-ccby-photo-used-for-commercial-gain/#comment-2006 Thanks John - more evidence that they are trying really hard. I hope my kids follow in a similar vein with their online business adventures. Tricky stuff tho - I'm sure it is just a matter of time before someone gets their work re-used in a context they don't like and get all snarky about it. Thanks John – more evidence that they are trying really hard. I hope my kids follow in a similar vein with their online business adventures. Tricky stuff tho – I’m sure it is just a matter of time before someone gets their work re-used in a context they don’t like and get all snarky about it.

]]> By: John Connell http://mseyfang.edublogs.org/2007/09/03/compliment-or-exploitation-my-flickr-ccby-photo-used-for-commercial-gain/comment-page-1/#comment-2005 John Connell Mon, 03 Sep 2007 12:08:43 +0000 http://mseyfang.edublogs.org/2007/09/03/compliment-or-exploitation-my-flickr-ccby-photo-used-for-commercial-gain/#comment-2005 Mike - I have now had 3 or 4 photos 'accepted' by Schmap from various parts of the world, including one from Sydney. I quite like the way they do business, a process you outline very well. After their first request to use a pic, I took them to task for not having a Mac client for their brochures. I received back a very friendly and personal email from one of the Schmap team explaining that they were working very hard on a Mac client and that they would let me know when it arrived. Sure enough, they contacted me to let me know that the Mac client had been launched recently. John Mike – I have now had 3 or 4 photos ‘accepted’ by Schmap from various parts of the world, including one from Sydney. I quite like the way they do business, a process you outline very well. After their first request to use a pic, I took them to task for not having a Mac client for their brochures. I received back a very friendly and personal email from one of the Schmap team explaining that they were working very hard on a Mac client and that they would let me know when it arrived. Sure enough, they contacted me to let me know that the Mac client had been launched recently.

John

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