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		<title>My Divorce (its not .me its you!)</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 11:02:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Today I ended my many year relationship with Apple &#8216;mobile me&#8217; (or .mac or me.com). Which is a pity because I really wanted it to work. The point of this post is not to bitch, moan or complain but to help me grieve and possibly suggest some small changes Apple could make to improve their [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Today I ended my many year relationship with Apple &#8216;mobile me&#8217; (or .mac or me.com). Which is a pity because I <i><b>really</b></i> wanted it to work. The point of this post is not to bitch, moan or complain but to help me grieve and possibly suggest some small changes Apple could make to improve their execution of this brilliant service. From an industry perspective it is really important that Apple (and Microsoft) keep improving their online offerings &#8211; ensuring healthy competition for the ecosystem currently dominated by Google. This is especially important to me because more than 20 years of my career were dedicated to messaging systems (the hilight being my involvement with the exchange server 2000 team).</p>
<p><b>So, what happened?</b></p>
<p>At the end of the day, I just couldn&#8217;t find decent support with some tricky synchronisation problems with my contacts. I found myself stuck in an endless loop of online suport articles and self-help forums dominated by self opinionated butt-heads who love to use the phrase &#8217;should work&#8217;! Sure Apple tech staff monitored, and occasionally posted on these forums but I could never engage with them, nor could I find an escalation path. I would have been happy with an online &#8217;submit your problem&#8217;, ecstatic with the opportuity to engage with an online chat with an Apple tech (even in US timezones). Sadly, I found no such mechanisms until the very last steps of my cancellation process (ironically with the iTunes store at the bottom of the consumer food chain &#8211; not the premium .mac service I had been paying for).</p>
<p>After several months of not being able to synch my contacts between my old PowerBook G4 and the web based contacts I ended up with two horribly out of whack lists. Next I got an e/mail saying my credit card details on file at Apple had expired and I needed to enter new ones. At this point I decided not to renew and thought my out of date credit card would ensure my account eventually faded away. But no! &#8211; this is when the salt was applied to the wound. A few days after my renewal date I received an INVOICE from apple (via my .mac inbox). A local Apple staffer did intercept one of my whinges on twitter and offer to help (thanks Steve) but too late she cried. I let it sit there to see what would happen. A month or so later, I happened to check my credit card statement, and to my horror &#8211; the bank had paid Apple for a renewal of my account. At this point I got so riled up that I spent an entire morning on the phone, starting with the phone number on the invoice.</p>
<p>It didn&#8217;t take long for an Apple staffer (in AUS) to figure out that I needed escalation to people who could help me cancel my account and organise a credit to my card. Within hours I had an e/mail from a human in the mobile me team with detailed instructions on the process for cancelling my account and assurance that a refund would follow. Helpfully, my attention was drawn to the fact that the stuff on my local copy of idisk would go away and that I needed to back it up manually. There was even a warning about my DRM infected iTunes store purchases that would also self-destruct unless I changed the e/mail address associated with my AppleID. (Which was my mac.com email). Having followed the instructions to do that I was not confident and to my utter surprise was offered an online chat session with a very helpful rep from the iTunes store who coached me thru the process and pointed out the subtle point that my appleid would remain my old .mac email address (which is now associated with my gmail).</p>
<p>Do you see the symmetry of woe here? Had I been guided to an online chat via an email support ticket it is quite likely that my synch problem would have been fixed and I would happily renew for many more years to come. The final rub is that my new MacBook Pro should arrive this week and would most likely have synced fine out of the box. </p>
<p>Never mind.</p>
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		<title>VRM: to start a movement, eat a prune</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 12:11:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>mseyfang</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Since Dave (LifeKludger) Wallace and I recorded our last ExtraOrdinary podcast episode I have been thinking a lot about starting movements. Having seen a few come and go, I&#8217;m looking for patterns. It seems to me that a &#8216;common enemy&#8217; or something to fight against can help. This reminds me of an old childhood expression [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since Dave (<a href="http://lifekludger.net">LifeKludger</a>) Wallace and I recorded our last <a href="http://extraordinary.thepodcastnetwork.com/">ExtraOrdinary podcast</a> episode I have been thinking a lot about starting movements. Having seen a few come and go, I&#8217;m looking for patterns. It seems to me that a &#8216;common enemy&#8217; or something to fight against can help. This reminds me of an old childhood expression &#8216;to start a movement, eat a prune&#8217;. Perhaps getting a dose of the shits could help move things along. Let me explain.</p>
<p>Living through the birth of the open source movement and the rise of Linux in particular seemed from my perspective to be somewhat galvanised by a common hatred or at least contempt. From the reaction of Stallman to not being given code for a printer, to the Microsoft bashing I endured from the most enthusiastic code cutting geek to the &#8216;anything but Microsoft&#8217; CIO, there was unity around a common foe.</p>
<p>Looking at the output and analysis of last week&#8217;s VRM (Vendor Relationship Management) conference in the States, three people I respect highly have made me think even deeper about the nature / role of the common foe. </p>
<p><a target="_blank" href="http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/doc/category/vrm/">Doc Searls</a> (whose very presence indicates the value of a charismatic leader to a movement) has always been about the return of voice/power to the disenfranchised masses. From his brilliant riffing on &#8216;Public WiFi and Toilets in hotels&#8217; to the subtle undertones of ClueTrain, his interest in VRM seems inexorably linked with a return of power to a market that is sick an tired of being &#8216;handled&#8217; (by things like CRM).</p>
<p><a href="http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&amp;ct=res&amp;cd=4&amp;url=http%3A%2F%2Fextraordinary.thepodcastnetwork.com%2F2007%2F07%2F26%2Fthe-extraordinary-everyday-lives-show-030-chris-carfi%2F&amp;ei=qwSDSLLTEIie6gPh3oTLAg&amp;usg=AFQjCNGEq6Ejr9dIO6LjnkqkdpImvdtQpw&amp;sig2=H0mkRAtCNuSb2tM76Eorag">Christopher Carfi</a> provided early and comprehensive <a target="_blank" href="http://www.socialcustomer.com/2008/07/vrm-workshop-tr.html">coverage and summaries</a> of what happened at the VRM event. This list absolutely reeks with a sense of uprising from people who have had enough. Almost every statement suggests empowerment of individuals and subservient compliance by vendors.</p>
<p><a href="http://extraordinary.thepodcastnetwork.com/2007/06/15/the-extraordinary-everyday-lives-show-028-jp-rangaswami/">JP Rangaswami</a> chimes in with his razor sharp insights cleverly disguised as &#8216;lazy musings&#8217;. His <a target="_blank" href="http://confusedofcalcutta.com/2008/07/19/thinking-about-opensource-and-vrm/#comment-382870">musing about open source</a> initiatives being better suited to the generic than the specific or unique resonates with this idea &#8211; it is harder to identify a common foe in specific or unique challenges. I would submit that focus on / development of the common foe may well be the kind of laxative catalyst that can really get such projects moving.</p>
<p>So, as I watch the fledgling VRM movement begin to mushroom and think about my own efforts with LearnDog and my ham-fisted attempts to help Dave with LifeKludger, there is much for me to consider and learn. Thanks, once again Doc, JP and Chris for your insights, leadership and willingness to connect with us crazy Aussies on a mission.</p>
<p>Therefore, being driven by a common enemy or complaint can be a key ingredient in starting a movement.</p>
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		<title>Dear RAA Insurance &#8211; VRM vs CRM</title>
		<link>http://mseyfang.edublogs.org/2008/04/22/dear-raa-insurance-vrm-vs-crm/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 02:40:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>mseyfang</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dear RAA,
(Royal Australian Automobile Association of South Australia) I have always loved your work and plan to keep it that way. But we need to have a serious talk about going too far with your CRM* and learn to deal with the upcoming inversion of VRM*.
You see, I have always been happy at membership renewal [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear RAA,</p>
<p>(Royal Australian Automobile Association of South Australia) I have always loved your work and plan to keep it that way. But we need to have a serious talk about going too far with your CRM* and learn to deal with the upcoming inversion of VRM*.</p>
<p>You see, I have always been happy at membership renewal time (proudly watching the years of continuous membership climb past 27). I often tell stories of how your roadside assistance, free strip maps, house insurance / security systems and even free legal aid have saved the day for me. Both my cars have been insured with RAA insurance since new, thankfully we have never had to do much business. But lately I have been telling rather different stories to anyone who will listen &#8211; because in my greatest hour of need to date I was &#8216;CRMd&#8217; (and I did not like it).</p>
<p>It all started last Friday with a very distressing call from my wife saying she had smashed her little red car near my place of work and could I come and help please. Before bolting out the door I checked my wallet for my RAA membership card &#8211; remembering how the RAA helped me out of a similar nightmare 10 years ago when a clerical error rendered us un-insured. As soon as we had made the environment safe, decided that an ambulance was not needed to get her to medical attention (just over the road) and swapped details with the other driver I sat down to make arrangements for tow away to an RAA approved repairer with a loan car available. Confidently grabbing my RAA gold card, I dialled the largest phone number on the back &#8211; Road Service (because that&#8217;s what I figured I needed). This is when the CRM system(s) kicked in &#8211; firstly to get me out of the queue for roadside assistance and into the queue for car insurance assistance.</p>
<p><em><strong>Then my confidence turned to horror as the CRM system</strong></em> prompted the poor operator at the insurance call-centre to validate my identity then check my account status before offering any assistance. After a brief wait on hold I was greeted with the grim news that my payment had not been received on time for a renewal due yesterday and that I would not be covered! It was at this point that my attitude toward RAA Insurance switched from very positive to absolute rage. I would need to make my own arrangements for removal of the vehicle. <em><strong>I WAS hoping the RAA would be able to determine which of their approved repairers had a loan car available and would organise a tow-truck to take the car there while I took my injured wife to hospital</strong></em>. We decided to leave the car on the side of the road and walk to get medical attention. Oh, yes, and to top it all off the last words of the RAA Insurance operator were a McDonalds style up-sell (doubtless prompted by the CRM system) &#8216;Is there anything else I can help you with today&#8217;..</p>
<p>The rest of that day was spent in clerical hell as I scrambled to try and find an optimal pathway through a process I did not understand. Found a nearby repairer who was prepared to guarantee loan car for my business but wanted me to push the vehicle 201 meters down the road for some reason that sounded dodgey to me. Found a bunch of forms to fill in and got some legal advice. Returned to the scene to get details of witnesses. Took legal advice and decided to ring state government towing service and get car taken to most reputable repairer (both RAA Insurance approved and HONDA recommended but 6 week wait for loan car). Arranged for relatives to take wife from doctor to x-rays and then in person to police station for mandatory police report. Back to car, call towing service, specify repairer of choice and wait. Ensure repairer will stay open until car arrives, greet tow truck operator, ask for lift to repairer and watch as he loads car onto truck. After a hasty flash of paper work including my signature he announces I will need to find my own way home as he is returning to depot. <em><strong>So there I was feeling utterly cheated and powerless:</strong></em></p>
<ul>
<li>No assistance from RAA Insurance only a question mark over my cover</li>
<li>Lost opportunity for loan car because of fear and uncertainty about insurance cover</li>
<li>The word &#8216;Depot&#8217; written next to my signature on a form marked with red WARNING notices &#8216;you must specify place of repair here&#8217;</li>
<li>Already half a day&#8217;s paid work lost and probably more to come as I now need to sort out this mess before getting any assistance from RAA Insurance</li>
<li>A splitting headache and a very sore and sorry wife</li>
</ul>
<p>What did I feel like doing? Being a web-geek who understands the future of marketing, the search terms &#8216;<a href="http://www.engadget.com/2004/09/14/kryptonite-evolution-2000-u-lock-hacked-by-a-bic-pen/" target="_blank">Kryptonite locks</a><a href="http://www.engadget.com/2004/09/14/kryptonite-evolution-2000-u-lock-hacked-by-a-bic-pen/" target="_blank">&#8216;,</a> &#8216;<a href="http://www.google.com.au/search?q=sky+handling+partners">Sky Handling Partners</a>&#8216; and others leapt to mind. I wanted to destroy the RAA brand and I knew exactly how to do it. But I talked it over, many many times. The story got more and more bizzare as the dust settled and details began to emerge. More conversations, none of which were positive, more legal advice &#8211; stay calm, focus. More time spent on clerical work and administration &#8211; less paid work with my clients.</p>
<p>So, RAA Insurance, I have written this humble blog post in the hope that one day we can sit down and talk about this in a constructive way. My wife is seeking an appointment with the most senior person in your Insurance business who will listen &#8211; to explain our circumstance. I need to clear my head and get back to work (especially if I need to fund all repairs myself). Most importantly <em><strong>we just want some assistance with this very complex process which is your business and should be none of ours</strong></em>.</p>
<p>Definitions:</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Customer_Relationship_Management" target="_blank">CRM</a> &#8211; Customer Relationship Management (The systems and process behind all those fancy call centres, streamlined bill payment and transaction processing).</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vendor_Relationship_Management" target="_blank">VRM</a> &#8211; Vendor Relationship Management (The future/flipside that will emerge as we your &#8216;customers&#8217; develop our online voice)</p>
<p>Fang &#8211; Mike Seyfang</p>
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